tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366199.post22356716754660822..comments2023-12-24T00:27:57.613-06:00Comments on Kole Hard Facts of Life: Gun Owners & Sex OffendersMike Kolehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17573721231319244630noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366199.post-11975800471918563472009-12-03T13:47:12.466-06:002009-12-03T13:47:12.466-06:00I just pulled 'Transparent Society' off my...I just pulled 'Transparent Society' off my bookshelf, and to my surprise it *does not* include a reference to Panopticon. I would have expected it to.<br /><br />Also remembering more of Brin's thoughts on this, he seemed to think that if you were one of the people who followed the rules, you had nothing to fear, because the surveillence would merely prove that you are on the level.<br /><br />I suppose that's true, but one thing I always recall about transparency in political fundraising is the negative effects it can have. How many people gave me $99 so they wouldn't have to fill out a form that would be public? Or, to cite a historical item, the civil rights movement and the key lawmakers who supported civil rights legislation received money from white people in the South who didn't want their neighbors to see what they were funding.<br /><br />It isn't all good, and there are unintended consequences. Although, with the campaign finance laws, the writers know the chilling effect that making one's donations public can have. That's a large part of the real reason for that rule.Mike Kolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573721231319244630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366199.post-4575711028140287702009-12-03T12:58:40.302-06:002009-12-03T12:58:40.302-06:00Memories starting to come back. It was back when I...Memories starting to come back. It was back when I followed the Electronic Frontier Foundation more closely and Mike Godwin got into an online debate with Brin.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11424730556609713021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366199.post-33292270086264170362009-12-03T12:50:54.160-06:002009-12-03T12:50:54.160-06:00I remember a debate about Brin's book in some ...I remember a debate about Brin's book in some forum or another when it came out. I can't remember the particulars but have a vague recollection of people speaking harshly about Brin. <br /><br />I guess my sense is that the information is being gathered and will continue to be gathered. Rules against public disclosure of the information will serve mainly to limit those who follow the rules.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11424730556609713021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366199.post-15942316438382626002009-12-03T11:07:46.349-06:002009-12-03T11:07:46.349-06:00Science fiction writer and physicist David Brin wr...Science fiction writer and physicist David Brin wrote a non-fiction book some ten years ago called 'The Transparent Society' and a pretty decent science fiction novel called "Kiln People" that take the position that being constantly observed is inevitable, and should be embraced. Brin essentially says that your best case scenario of the Panopticon will play out. Brin is a libertarian, fwiw.<br /><br />I'm not so sure. It will have the effect of changing behavior, for sure. Who controls the ability to constantly monitor, and what they do with the info, is critically important to me. I suspect it will limit freedom, and not just the freedom to act badly lest one is corrected by shame, as in Dog Poop Girl from a few years back.Mike Kolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573721231319244630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366199.post-42771648926534064612009-12-03T10:30:32.827-06:002009-12-03T10:30:32.827-06:00I've said it before. We're in the Panoptic...I've said it before. We're in the <a href="http://www.masson.us/blog/?p=615" rel="nofollow">Panopticon.</a>Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11424730556609713021noreply@blogger.com